# Making backing tracks from recordings

**URL:** <https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505>\
**Category:** Finger Drumming Gear / Software / Setup\
**Created:** [September 6, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505 "2024-09-06T18:27:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/questforgroove.discourse.group/roel/32/822_2.png) [@Roel](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/u/Roel)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505/1 "2024-09-06T18:27:29Z")

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Here’s a little tip that I’ve been using for the past week:

It’s quite challenging to find good backing tracks that sound natural. Luckily, with many people dabbling into AI, there’s quite a lot of stem separation algorithms available, of which many are free. Such software has been referenced on the software before, but I believe there’s merit in having software that runs locally.

I’ve had some luck with [Ultimate vocal remover](https://ultimatevocalremover.com/), free software that allows stem separation to remove vocals, but depending on the model, also different instruments. It works best on computers with a somewhat capable gpu. The results are (to my ears) usually remarkably decent.

There’s quite some information out there already, so I won’t dive into detail too much. To start, just drop an mp3 and choose which tracks to extract.  
I’ve had luck with the following settings:

Process method: Demucs  
Choose Demucs model: v4 | htdemucs\_ft  
Choose stem(s): Drums  
and then the box “no drums only” (you can deselect if you also want an mp3 with the drums separated).

That’s basically it. Step 2 is frustration because the song was harder than I thought! 😆

A version that runs online is MVSEP, at [MVSEP - Music & Voice Separation](https://mvsep.com/en).  
It uses some of the same models, but the free version has some limits.

edit: found there’s some reference to software on the boards already

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**Author:** ![ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ross](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/u/ross)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505/2 "2024-09-08T11:24:23Z")

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I found [karaokeversion.com](http://karaokeversion.com) to be a good source for this, but it does cost $3 a song.

i’m a beginner with finger drumming, less than a year here at QFG, and i’m having a blast. i’ve gone through the beginning and chunks of the intermediate. i finally got to the point where i was starting to play along with some songs, specifically, the “6 Famous Breakbeats” and “You Know I’m No Good”. i loved playing it, but i would do so along with the youtube video, so i’d hear the drum part in the background.

i found with karaokeversion, it had all instrumental/vocal parts and i could decide which tracks to include for a backing track, then save that version and use it for practice. for the very few songs i was playing with, this works out great.

yes, it’s $3 per song, and they might not have the song you’re looking for, but when i weigh that against learning how to create the backing track myself, i’m okay with that at this point in my journey.

i sound like i’m plugging the site. i’m not. i just found it useful for me. : )

Ross

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**Author:** ![iDuncan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/43a26b/32.png) [@iDuncan](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/u/iDuncan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505/3 "2024-09-10T10:24:46Z")

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Nice, I was just looking at Mixcraft after it was mentioned in another post. The Pro version has a stem separation tool and splits them in the DAW ready to go by the looks. Seems pretty handy. Most of the music I listen to though is via steaming so not sure how I’d go using any of these.

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**Author:** ![Roel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/questforgroove.discourse.group/roel/32/822_2.png) [@Roel](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/u/Roel)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505/4 "2024-09-10T11:30:35Z")

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I assume paid services like Mixcraft use models with similar performance as those available for free. That’s the main reason why I opened the post: Free stem separation/karaoke models are available, but it takes a little investigation at times.

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**Author:** ![Niviman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Niviman](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/u/Niviman)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://questforgroove.discourse.group/t/making-backing-tracks-from-recordings/1505/5 "2024-09-10T21:30:16Z")

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I like Mixcraft a lot. It is a very user-friendly DAW. However, I wouldn’t buy it for stems. For other reasons, yes.
